Well said and beautifully penned. In the vows of simplicity we took last night, I woke to new feelings of needing connection with my brothers and sisters everywhere today as we march in protest. Peace and All Good.
I have long been an admirer of Richard Rohr and all things Franciscan. I once asked if I could join the order and was told I could not as I am female. I presume that this is still sadly true? I see a female took vows with you last night? As a full fledged Franciscan?
I am a great admirer of your posts, Tripp, they are a prioity for me as I make my way through the onslought of posts that come my way daily. So perhaps I am missing something here? And admitedly I so not know what the "Episcopal 3rd Order" is - and I see your LOL. So maybe please let this ignortant person in on your joke? That sounds like something along the lines of women can be deacons but not priests, as is the edict in so many churches. I grew up in the south, I know only too well that separate but equal is Never equal.
Ah. Sorry. No…The Third Order Franciscans are male and female…there’s no distinction in any way. This is commonplace in the Episcopal Church. Women priests, deacons, and Ordered Religious…St. Francis established three orders in his lifetime. The first was the Friars Minor (men), then he and Clare founded the order of cloistered Franciscan women. Finally, he founded an order for those who could not for understandable reasons take on the full vows of the first two orders. That order is lay, ordained, male, female, etc. Check out http://www.tssf.org.
Thanks for the explanation. I know Episcopals have no distinction between male and female. Neither do Methodists. And I knew of the first two orders of Franciscans you mentioned. But I had never heard of “Third Order Franciscans.” I’m glad to have a fuller understanding of these “orders”, or categories in a hierarchy. I also note that this third order is not a priestly order. The only priestly order of Franciscans is then the First Order, Friars Minors, and it is limited to men. Is this, my understanding now, correct? Sorry to belabor the point but the distinction is important to me. I am a Methodist Pastor, and well aware of these kinds of hierarchies in my church.
Congratulations Tripp! Such a big step. Welcome to SSF-our lovely Anglican Franciscan family. I myself joined the 1st Order Community of St. Francis from 1974-1978 in SF, CA and was their first American sister. I have remained close to SSF/CSF ever since and am now a retired Epsicopal priest and author. I was also a hospice chaplain for 17 years... My substack posts can be seen at: https://pamelacranston.substack.com/
Well said and beautifully penned. In the vows of simplicity we took last night, I woke to new feelings of needing connection with my brothers and sisters everywhere today as we march in protest. Peace and All Good.
Deb, it is an honor to be on this walk with you.
So wonderful to hear of your journey. Thanks for sharing each step!
Thanks so much, Hans. I appreciate you.
“Evangelism is not a numbers game, it’s about becoming.” Amen!!!! Grateful for you and for sharing your journey of becoming.
Thank YOU!
Enjoyed your post and congratulations!
I am glad and thanks so much!
I have long been an admirer of Richard Rohr and all things Franciscan. I once asked if I could join the order and was told I could not as I am female. I presume that this is still sadly true? I see a female took vows with you last night? As a full fledged Franciscan?
The Episcopal 3rd order is coed. LOL
I am a great admirer of your posts, Tripp, they are a prioity for me as I make my way through the onslought of posts that come my way daily. So perhaps I am missing something here? And admitedly I so not know what the "Episcopal 3rd Order" is - and I see your LOL. So maybe please let this ignortant person in on your joke? That sounds like something along the lines of women can be deacons but not priests, as is the edict in so many churches. I grew up in the south, I know only too well that separate but equal is Never equal.
Ah. Sorry. No…The Third Order Franciscans are male and female…there’s no distinction in any way. This is commonplace in the Episcopal Church. Women priests, deacons, and Ordered Religious…St. Francis established three orders in his lifetime. The first was the Friars Minor (men), then he and Clare founded the order of cloistered Franciscan women. Finally, he founded an order for those who could not for understandable reasons take on the full vows of the first two orders. That order is lay, ordained, male, female, etc. Check out http://www.tssf.org.
Thanks for the explanation. I know Episcopals have no distinction between male and female. Neither do Methodists. And I knew of the first two orders of Franciscans you mentioned. But I had never heard of “Third Order Franciscans.” I’m glad to have a fuller understanding of these “orders”, or categories in a hierarchy. I also note that this third order is not a priestly order. The only priestly order of Franciscans is then the First Order, Friars Minors, and it is limited to men. Is this, my understanding now, correct? Sorry to belabor the point but the distinction is important to me. I am a Methodist Pastor, and well aware of these kinds of hierarchies in my church.
More letters!! 🎉
Francis is one of my faves.
Is this like being a Benedictine oblate, eg layperson following the way of Francis?
Just like that.
Mazel tov, my friend. You are doing the work.
Congratulations Tripp! Such a big step. Welcome to SSF-our lovely Anglican Franciscan family. I myself joined the 1st Order Community of St. Francis from 1974-1978 in SF, CA and was their first American sister. I have remained close to SSF/CSF ever since and am now a retired Epsicopal priest and author. I was also a hospice chaplain for 17 years... My substack posts can be seen at: https://pamelacranston.substack.com/